of someone who is going to do horror is too many. >> but how do you know, wayne? adam lanza -- i'll give you the floor. adam lanza, his mother was a legal gun owner. how do you know this person, that his mother, would not have obeyed the law and limited the magazine clip and then adam lanza would have been limited to ten rounds instead of 30? >> megan, people that know guns -- you can change magazine clips in a second. there's no evidence that, you know, that anything would have changed. >> so you go to the gun salesman, mayor, and you go to buy a 30-round clip and he says, don't waste your money, young man, because, you know, you can change those magazines really fast in a manner of seconds. you just take the ten-round one. this is the stupidest argument. they want the 30-round clips because they want to have access to them for hunters, i guess. i don't know who, or people defending themselves in their homes against the government. but, you know, yet they say we can flick this thing out of here in ten seconds. apparently up in newtown, luckily, it's not that easy for a nut to change clips.